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  A question for you women; what was it really like for you being in the Org?

  by Tallon in

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  2. experiences

  hi there folks.. i took a bit of time out from the forum, however i'm back again.. what was it really like for you, your experiences good or bad, etc, in the org?.

  if you were granted a listening ear by the gb, what changes would you like to see implemented?.

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  Spiral: My sister says, "the silver sword being sister proof" is to imply that "sisters" are always messing up their bibles (coffee, lipstick, dropping, crumming) (she says they probably got a great deal on the gray covers, and had to make an excuse for it)
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  The GB's modesty knows no bounds

  by neat blue dog in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  sarcasm intended obviously 🙄.

  in the intro from the latest ezekiel book:.

  as youread through its 22 chapters and meditate on thebeautiful illustrations found therein, you will beamazed at all the careful research that has goneinto its preparation.. they call themselves the faithful and discreet slave, but how discreet is it really to be constantly bragging about yourself?

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  Under the radar.... "truth de jour" as in 'soup of the day/ truth of the day' .... whatever crap they feel like serving you, you had better be happy eating, LOVE it! Thx!
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  another JW molester is coming to light.

  by NikL in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the article doesn't mention his jaydubness but he is and has been for years.. https://www.mymotherlode.com/news/local/456801/sonora-man-arrested-for-child-pornography-2.html.

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  Robin Awalt, 75 yrs old, from Sonora... anybody know him?
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  When is a church not a church?

  by Lost in the fog in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the watchtower and jehovah's witnesses go out of their way to insist that they are not a church like the false ones of christendom.

  so why don't they file an irs tax return?

  because, according to guidestar they are exempt, since they are a church.

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  Whenever the WT says so ;-)
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  Funeral/Memorial at the Kingdom Hall ... Would you go?

  by Wild_Thing in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  let's say an aunt or uncle dies.

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  let's say you barely knew them.. let's say their memorial service was held at the kingdom hall.. let's say if you attend, you have to deal with shunning from family and jws, and you are forced listen to them present their paradise promotional materials, and the dead person's "earthly hope™", and let's face it ... the heeby-jeebies of having to be in a kingdom hall again.. would you put yourself through it?

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  Good idea, Blondie... I like the idea of a card.. I have kept all of mine for years, and I do read them. Yep, a card lasts forever, and who knows? it just might make the bridge for someone.
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  When is a church not a church?

  by Lost in the fog in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the watchtower and jehovah's witnesses go out of their way to insist that they are not a church like the false ones of christendom.

  so why don't they file an irs tax return?

  because, according to guidestar they are exempt, since they are a church.

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  Right, and why does the WT use "clergy penitent privilege" in their lawsuits when they 'have no clergy"?

  Why does the WT have all kinds of religions show up at their court case in Canada testifying for them Why does the WT need them? Why does it let them? Why would WT want to use "worldly laws" and ideas when THEY have 'the truth'?
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  My Mom's Challenge to Me

  by lriddle80 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so my jw mom messages me on facebook last night and says she wants me, for a month, to read the bible, but first pray using the name jehovah and in jesus name and then read it with an open mind.

  she is so ridiculous!

  first of all, i do pray but i usually just say father and i always pray in jesus name and i find it ironic that she is saying i should have an open mind when hers is closed.

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  After reading the Bible 'for a month, using the name Jehovah & doing so in Jesus' name", ask your mother to answer some questions that have come up, since she has been reading the Bible far longer than you have 'using Jehovah's name,' she must be able to answer these questions better than you, right?

  Tell her that you have been watching the news, have read of the Catholic Church and their sexual abuse cases, and the court case recently won in Montana, USA, against Jehovah's Witnesses.

  Remind her that the Bible says

  (1 John 4:16-18) . . .God is love, and he that remains in love remains in union with God and God remains in union with him. 17 This is how love has been made perfect with us, that we may have freeness of speech in the day of judgment, because, just as that one is, so are we ourselves in this world. 18 There is no fear in love, but perfect love throws fear outside, because fear exercises a restraint. Indeed, he that is under fear has not been made perfect in love.

  Tell her that you cannot understand how if God is love, how can he allow children to have fear? Fear of going to the KIngdom Hall to be molested? Fear of reporting to the police, and being reprimanded if they "bring reproach on Jehovah's name"?
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  Funeral/Memorial at the Kingdom Hall ... Would you go?

  by Wild_Thing in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  let's say an aunt or uncle dies.

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  let's say you barely knew them.. let's say their memorial service was held at the kingdom hall.. let's say if you attend, you have to deal with shunning from family and jws, and you are forced listen to them present their paradise promotional materials, and the dead person's "earthly hope™", and let's face it ... the heeby-jeebies of having to be in a kingdom hall again.. would you put yourself through it?

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  I know how you feel, Wild Thing...

  Each person, with their own experiences, personalities, will have their different reasons to attend or not to attend.

  Me? Though I would never want to hear another "memorial"/ advertisement/ recruiting talk, something inside me would want to 1. Make a statement: "Here I am, you shun me, but I am not afraid 2. Face what you have done, you can't have your happy little JW world without thinking of what you did. 3. Maybe, just maybe, someone wished they knew, are hoping to escape and need the support. 4. To observe it as a matter of history.

  Maybe....

  Just me, cha ching
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  What are they trying to hide

  by UnshackleTheChains in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  ok. we are all aware of the scandal around the non reporting of child abuse cases to the authorities by the elders and how it was part of watchtower policy.. this has probably been discussed before, which i apologize for now if it has.. the obvious view that most of us make as to why the gb are so reluctant to comply with the authorities by revealing their database around child abuse allegations, is that the leadership at watchtower hq likely were trying to safeguard the reputation of the organisation.. however, (just a theory) are they hiding something more sinister which could in effect devastate the organisation ie could it be they are hiding some things within the gb itself, whether it be some individuals within the gb of the past or even present who might have had some serious allegations made against them which the authorities are never going to know about?

  i mean why the hell are they going to such lengths to hide everything???.

  any thoughts?

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  Very true, Still Totally ADD, I have a non-JW friend who was abused her whole childhood, by many people. She also was threatened with 'death' if she spoke to anyone.

  Only now, in her very late 30's, has she been able to face these demons, and speak about them.

  I also wonder why the Catholics, JWs, Boy Scouts, etcetera's do not destroy records. Yes, it's 'illegal' to destroy records .... but so is child abuse. Do they know someone has kept a copy? otherwise what would make such morally depraved people from acting immoral?
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  Thank you New World Bible Translation Committee for removing the words, "mentally diseased" from 1 Tim. 6:4

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i want to thank jehovah's witnesses new world bible translation committee for changing the words, "mentally diseased" as found in the 1984 edition of the nwt, to "obsessed with arguments," as found in 1 timothy 6:4 in the 2013 revised nwt.. on february 6, 2012, david splane, the overseer of the watchtower's writing department received an open letter from me which i posted below especially for new posters.

  the topic of my letter was in response to the writing department's statement that ..."apostates are mentally diseased" in their july 15, 2011 watchtower.

  the 1984 edition of the new world translation reads:.

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  cha ching

  We really do need to thank all of the activists who have worked so hard, and hung in there for so many years, in all their different ways to promote a change in our culture.

  Writers, You-Tubers,website supporters for ex-jw's, people who post court documents, people who post past JW articles compared with present, people who post news articles, people who stand up to WT, and take WT to court.

  ALL are a part of the change. We need a change, and need to support all of these efforts.

  Thank you Barbara Anderson, thank you Steven Unthank, thank you Simon, JWfacts, and all of you other hard workers! We appreciate you!